[Franny]

Originally Posted by master_of_muppets

franny: are you self-employed and responsible for creating jobs and growing a business as a sole-prop or officer of a corporation?

if not, you should probably STFU because to those of us who have the responsibility of making the bills by our own hard work, you sound like a fool.

McCain found his poster child, and it's too close to the election for Joe's aunt's, brother's, next door neighbor's friend connection to matter.

Joe's point is clear to me and those i employ. a vote for obama will raise taxes on businesses that create jobs.

you don't raise taxes in this evnironment, especially on the people and individuals whom CREATE JOBS.

obama has never created a job. obama has never had to pay quarterly taxes for a business. he has never had to make payroll, or forecast P&L.

a vote for obama is a vote to NOT give yourself a raise over the next 4 years.

No one is debating what Joe represents... this thread is about the validity of the McCain campaign's claims that Joe is just some random Joe Sixpack business owner who approached Obama at a rally and that all this attention was not staged.

McCain aides say there was no heads-up for Joe the Plumber, who's headed out to the morning shows tomorrow.

"Joe didn't know" that he'd be at the center of the debate," said Matt McDonald.

"We tried to call him during the debate, but his phone was busy," he said. "We're not going to put him through media training."