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osu99jp · #1 (**permalink**) 03-07-2006, 10:05 AM

I was going to respond to your Apple comment in the Kirby Puckett thread, but it would not be on topic, so I'm posting it here. I actually went out to the Apple store last week for the first time ever and bought a nano because I've always wanted one. I also found myself admiring the look of their laptops from afar. Being in the market for a laptop, can you suggest anything to me? I wouldn't necessarily say that price is my #1 concern. I'd much rather pay extra for higher-quality and performance than save money for something I'm not crazy about. I plan to use it a lot for school and for recreation (internet, a little online poker here and there, instant messaging, etc.)

Franny · #2 (**permalink**) 03-07-2006, 01:42 PM

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I also found myself admiring the look of their laptops from afar. Being in the market for a laptop, can you suggest anything to me?

Well I think you need to really ask yourself why you need an Apple Laptop. Are you familiar with Mac OS X? I really think you set yourself up for difficulty in the future as far as application compatibility and document sharing. The Mac OS X is not going to run apps faster, in fact for anything but file search it will run more sluggishly. You won't be able to find any great games for this laptop. Really, besides having a nicer looking shell, there really isn't any advantage to purchasing this product based on your requirements.

I hear so many people say... "yeah, I just want to surf the web and send email with my computer." They land up buying junk. I'm not saying you are buying a junky system but you are setting yourself up for many challenges. Look how long it took Google to create Google Desktop for the Mac. This is a critical tool I would think for someone like you. You will miss out on a lot of great apps and extras by purchasing this machine.

If price isn't an issue:
If you can hold off for 5-6 months I would wait to buy a laptop with Dual Core processors running Windows Vista. I know it's impossible to wait sometimes, but this is your best bet. You'll have so much power and capability, you won't know what to do with yourself.

shantyman · #3 (**permalink**) 03-07-2006, 02:16 PM

Arguing with Franny is sort of like talking to the kid in class who says a lot of things, but does not know what he is talking about. He's not a good or unbiased source of information in this case.

The fact is, Apple and most PC vendors are now selling laptops with identical chips, the Intel Core Duo. Using hardware to base this decision on is not the way to go. These are the dual core chips that Chris apprently did not know Apple and many PC vendors are selling already.

Also, Google Desktop is not a necessary application on the Mac because of a feature called Spotlight which does the same thing (searches for documents using metadata). It's built into the OS. Franny does not know this because he does not use Macs.

If you are comfortable with a Windows machine you probably ought to get a PC.

Franny · #4 (**permalink**) 03-07-2006, 02:40 PM

Why do you have to insult me? I am just helping the dude out. We all know about Spotlight, I don't think it contains all the features of Google Desktop. If Spotlight now contains a personalized sidebar, integrated/customized RSS feeds and quick search for the enture Internet, I'll go buy a mac. Shantyman - I challenge you to any Technology Quiz any day. You need a dose of reality dude. I don't mind you having a differing opinion but I don't see why you have to personally attack me all the time. If I attack Apple it doesn't mean I am attacking you. Does this make sense? You are really out of line.

Franny · #5 (**permalink**) 03-07-2006, 03:00 PM

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These are the dual core chips that Chris apprently did not know Apple and many PC vendors are selling already

2 of my servers have the dual core chips installed. I believe my comment was about using this technology while running Vista. Once again.. why the insults? Cheap.

Go play Fraction Munchers on your G3

osu99jp · #6 (**permalink**) 03-07-2006, 04:39 PM

Dumbass me took Franny's comment from the Kirby Puckett thread as some kind of serious-yet-sarcastic endorsement of Apple products..I thought maybe he worked for them or something and was just trying to get me to buy their stuff. Now I realize that maybe he isn't their biggest fan. I don't know a lot of you guys personally, so I may come across slow sometimes, as in this case.

I don't plan on buying an Apple laptop, I just thought they looked kinda sleek from afar. When Franny made the comment about "everything by Apple is awesome and all else sucks" I thought he might be able to convince me to buy Apple. I never really planned on it, I get a pretty good discount on Dells through school, but I was curious what kind of sales pitch he might throw at me. I've only used Mac's when the computer lab was full and that's all that was available to me back in my undergrad days. Never liked 'em, to tell you the truth.

Me = Not the most technologically-savvy person on earth. I'm not totally up to speed with what is considered "normal" these days as far as processor speed, hard drive capacity, etc. Last computer I personally bought was in '98, when a 2-gig hard drive was considered awesome.

Tedesco · #7 (**permalink**) 03-07-2006, 09:39 PM

I just wanted to clarify a point, not get into the middle of the Nth Shanty/Franny flame war....

IMO Mac OSX is not that difficult a transition to make when coming from a Windows platform. You statement about the difficulty, Franny, might be applicable if a person were going from Windows to OS9, but not OSX. There are some differences, but nothing to truly stump the user.

Franny · #8 (**permalink**) 03-07-2006, 10:41 PM

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Your statement about the difficulty, Franny, might be applicable if a person were going from Windows to OS9, but not OSX. There are some differences, but nothing to truly stump the user.

When did I even say this?
Macs are TOO easy to use. I'd buy one for my 4 yr old nephew, if I had one.

Tedesco · #9 (**permalink**) 03-07-2006, 11:15 PM

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Are you familiar with Mac OS X? I really think you set yourself up for difficulty in the future as far as application compatibility and document sharing.

This is what I was referencing. I took it to mean a difficulty with OSX.

Franny · #10 (**permalink**) 03-08-2006, 10:23 PM

OSU99JP
So what laptop are you going to land up getting?

Tedesco · #11 (**permalink**) 03-08-2006, 11:18 PM

I hope it's not Dell. Dell's laptops are shit.

Franny · #12 (**permalink**) 03-09-2006, 08:50 AM

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I hope it's not Dell. Dell's laptops are shit.

The Latitudes are decent, the Inspirons are pieces of junk but man you can't pass up that price. My gripe with Dell as far as laptops is their support. I used to buy all Dell for my company and moved to Thinkpads after 2 seperate times they dropped the ball on the support side of the house.

Tedesco · #13 (**permalink**) 03-09-2006, 08:54 AM

My first laptop was a Compaq. It was a POS, but it was free, so I wasn't really gonna complain. Then I bought my Inspiron about three years ago, and it's been ok, as long as you could overlook the 4 times I've had to switch out the motherboard. That was insane, plus they went against their own little protection plan, of which I paid extra for in the event of such an occurance. That, coupled with their non-english suppoprt, pretty much ensures that I won't buy Dell again.

Franny · #14 (**permalink**) 03-09-2006, 11:56 AM

I may actually pick up a new Microsoft Ultra Mobile

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/umpc/hardware.mspx

I have a specific need for this device.