Sarah Palin Discussion Thread

[Franny]

Palin will take A LOT of disgruntled hillary women. count on it.

I do not doubt this.

I'm just posting my initial reactions. No one knows this lady. She was mayor of a town of 9,000 residents - what - 24 months ago? Something tells me the Biden vs Palin debate will be the most watched VP debate, ever. People are certainly interested in this lady, but the only praise she seems to get is "She's a great conservative!" What has she accomplished? How can she be a mother of 5 and still be a VP?

The reality is too (fair or not), there are a fair number of people that just assume that McCain could pass away during his presidency. His VP selection is critical. This country is a mess, this isn't time to fuck around.

[osu99jp]

Not to change the topic..but can someone help me understand why a person's opinion on abortion rights matters to them so much? By that, I mean strictly "pro-choice vs. pro-life"...not anything more detailed than that, such as partial-birth abortion and other icky topics...just their personal, two-word philosophy - pro choice or pro life. I've read so much lately about how McCain "had better choose a pro-Lifer" or he'll pay dearly this November.....I just found myself wondering that lately. Is this really relevant to that many people? It isn't to me, so I can't relate. Maybe that's because I'm not much into religion, I don't know. Does it all boil down to religious beliefs? Anyway, it doesn't seem to ever be much of a topic of discussion, outside of when the Republicans are nominating a person for office. And it seems to me like Roe v Wade isn't being overturned anytime soon..or ever, for that matter. But it sure seems to me like a LOT of people out there value a person's philosophy on this above all else.

[master_of_muppets]

Originally Posted by Franny

I do not doubt this.
The reality is too (fair or not), there are a fair number of people that just assume that McCain could pass away during his presidency. His VP selection is critical. This country is a mess, this isn't time to fuck around.

this is precisely why so many friends i'm hearing from today LOVE this pick.

the unmentioned thing that you might not know is that a lot of George Bush-voters don't like how his 2 terms worked out... at all. i mean, Harriet Meyers?!! we still can't forgive him for that, the Rx expansion, dept. of education expansion, etc. - he's a failure to many of us. he's the jimmy carter of the GOP.

so to a LOT of the GOP base, "change" is exactly what we want. just not a march toward socialism or whatever barak is calling it these days.

put palin in there. she has run a big state with big issues and has a 95% approval rating. she's a gun-toting, abortion-hating, union-member mother of 5 with strong Conservative conviction. my kind of president.

[Franny]

Originally Posted by master_of_muppets

put palin in there. she has run a big state with big issues

Huh?

Rhode Island has almost double the amount of residents that Alaska has. What big issue has she dealt with? How to re-route the iditarod around packs of wild wolves?

Now you are just being silly. You're happy because she's the MILF version of Ted Nugent?

[master_of_muppets]

Originally Posted by Franny

Huh?

Rhode Island has almost double the amount of residents that Alaska has. What big issue has she dealt with? How to re-route the iditarod around packs of wild wolves?

Now you are just being silly. You're happy because she's the MILF version of Ted Nugent?

one word for you: Oil.
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one acronym for you: ANWAR.
= hot-button issue.

palin is very much in favor of new drilling in ANWAR, which is in the state she governs.

now that she's on the national stage you'll be hearing about other things like her stance on gun control, abortion, property rights, etc. - all of which are very important to the GOP base that still has majority swing in this country.

[Franny]

now that she's on the national stage you'll be hearing about other things like her stance on gun control, abortion, property rights, etc.

Ohh I'm sorry I thought this woman was nominated for Vice President of the United States, not a seat on the Supreme Court.

I don't think Gun Control and Abortion are the issues that are making people select a candidate for presidency. It's Healthcare, the Economy, The Iraq Debacle, Dealing with China as an Economic Superpower, Finding actual terrorists, etc.

[master_of_muppets]

you're right, but perception is reality, franny. and perception of how our elections work is that all things matter.

give this a bit of time. i assure you there's more to her than the naughty librarian thing she has going on.

[Franny]

i assure you there's more to her than the naughty librarian thing she has going on.

Actually, she looks like Tina Fey - a person I think is one of the most overrated/unfunny people in America. But, I don't think Tina Fey would ever suggest we teach creationism in schools. Wowsas.

I am excited to see how she handles the pressure here from the media, and how she holds up in the debates. You've got McCain who was almost dead last in his class in college and Palin who squeeked through the University of Idaho vs. a Harvard grad and a J.D. It's an interesting race on many levels. Race, gender, experience, age, education, oh my.

[shantyman]

Did you know she HATES polar bears?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/05/op...in&oref=slogin

[Franny]

Originally Posted by shantyman

Did you know she HATES polar bears?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/05/op...in&oref=slogin

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[Franny]

Hmmm... Anyone here have a job description for VPILF that you can send to Mrs Palin? They have electronic mail in Alaska?

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[shantyman]

Originally Posted by master_of_muppets

i'm not worried about obama taxing me. just means i have to make more money. i was fully prepared to vote for him until that deflating speech he gave last night coupled with the palin pick today.

This comment is bizarre- what did you think he would say on Thursday? That he was lowering taxes?

[master_of_muppets]

for the record, i've always found tina fey to be sexy. 30Rock is, to me, the funniest show on television.

[Franny]

Originally Posted by master_of_muppets
i'm not worried about obama taxing me. just means i have to make more money. i was fully prepared to vote for him until that deflating speech he gave last night coupled with the palin pick today.

I must have missed this comment as well. I'm calling bullshit on this one. MOM, you've been whining about tax increases and bObama since the day Clinton conceeded. Based on your post history, you are the 3rd most conservative member of this site. You weren't voting for bObama.

[master_of_muppets]

@ shanty & franny

i was prepared to vote for obama up to the last 24 hours. i was prepared to vote for him just as i voted for sherrod brown - because i'm tired of the lack of backbone the current GOP has shown in recent years. W is a total failure. he had 8 years, and what did we get? bigger govt., endless expensive war, and an insulting supreme court nomination that i and thousands of other conservatives had to raise hell over in order for a legit candidate.

i was fully prepared to vote for obama until his speech. i wanted to hear what to expect - in words from a mouth, not via a fucking website that my obama-supporting friends keep referring me to. i wanted to here him tell everyone in prime time what his specific plans are, not that it's W's fault people can't make a car payment. something clicked when i heard that speech. i went to bed last night assuming i'd vote for Barr or write in Ron Paul because i just assumed McCain was cut from the same cloth as W, and would tap Romney, Ridge, Leiberman, or Pawlenty as his running mate.

back in early May, when i told a room full of my friends that the only way i'd vote McCain was if he tapped Palin or Jindal, it was an almost rhetorical statement - something i never imagined actually happening. i saw Palin and Jindal going prime-time around 2012, not now.

so the perfect storm hit for me: deflating speech by Obama followed by the picking of Palin. i can not prove to you guys that this is the truth.

so McCain gets my vote come november precisely because he's old, and precisely because he'll either die in office or be WAY too old to run in 2012, leaving the door open for a Palin vs. Hillary election.

and for what it's worth: i tend to agree with Michael Savage 99% of the time, and today he came out viciously against the Palin pick. he called it the worst political blunder in American history, and that McCain is "throwing" the race. i couldn't possibly disagree more.